The above photo was taken in Moscow, Russia (1969).
This blog report is the second to be filed under the category of ‘Merry Othigo /Mary Othigo’. This blog report is also the third to be filed under the category of ‘Helton Maganga / Heltan Maganga’.
I recently came across a number of photographs of Merry/Mary Othigo. Some of the photographs are old (1950s/1960s/1970s) and some are relatively new (2010). These are the first pictures of Othigo that I have ever seen.
Thereupon viewing the pictures, notably the more recent of them, I realized that I’d seen, and spoken with, this woman while I was at the Coast Province General Hospital (CPGH) in Mombasa, Kenya on the 19th day of February, 20o9.
When I spoke with doctor Othigo she was not wearing any sort of name identifying tag, badge or card. Furthermore, I did not see a desktop name plate anywhere identifying a doctor or chief administrator named Othigo. The video below depicts much of the same for doctor or chief administrator Helton/Heltan Maganga. No name tag. No desktop name plate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vL2ErPz7Qk
I did not see, and did not talk with, doctor Helton/Heltan Maganga at the CPGH on the 19th day of February, 2009. My account of this has never swayed or wavered. I remember the very first time that I spoke telephonically with attorney Orly Taitz. I was in Republica Dominicana and she was in Israel. She specifically asked me if I saw the certificate of birth being signed. I state that I had not. I went on to state that, in fact, the CPGH administrative staff member that I dealt with was a female and that I did not know her name.
Scores of other individuals, sometimes in groups, have heard me give the same account as far back as 2009.
I really and truly don’t understand the uproar and pandemonium today in Obotopia about Lucas Smith meeting with Merry/Mary Othigo at CPGH in 2009. Ironically, it was Obotopia that, more than one year ago, first began to spread the news that Lucas Daniel Smith had meet with and spoken with doctor Othigo at the Coast Province General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya on the 19th day of February 2009:
Lucas,
I can easily show you that COULD NOT POSSIBLY have recognized dr Othigo based upon those pices you posted. Over 20 years have passed and the young athletic figure has more than doubled her weigth. Some search on the web can avoid you the humiliation (airlift of siamese twins from CPGH to Kenyatta Hospital in 2008, ICRH in Kenya, her Facebook page).
http://books.google.com/books?id=ClkqV5z17AAC&lpg=PA683&dq=jennifer%20othigo&pg=PA683#v=onepage&q=jennifer%20othigo&f=false
gazzetted 1990 Medical Registered Practiotioners
Othigo is at pag 683 reg n° 2465 Othigo Merry Jennifer Otieno
same reg number as in the 2011 electronic version
http://www.medicalboard.co.ke/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=35
I didn’t identify Othigo from her younger pictures that I have posted here. These pictures are quite old
that I have posted here. Its pretty simple: read my blog report (before you make reckless comments) to see that I said that I have a number of photos,
some old and some relatively new. The newest is 2010.
Usually when a person says that they have a ‘number of’ that means more than two. And ‘relatively new’ means MUCH newer than 1969.
this proves two things:
the electronic file from the Medical Board of Kenya is the official gazzeted source.
No more doubts about the names
Othigo, Merry Jennifer and
Maganga, Heltan Mnjama
furthermore Othigo was registered in 1986, Maganga in 1994
ok Lucas, so when will you climax with recent photos of Jennifer that will definitively prove your document’s authenticity ?
How about:
Fresh Othigo PICs make Obama inelegible ?
Kim/Mik,
No. What this blog report, and the preceding blog report, ‘proves’ is that hospitals in Mombasa spell a doctor’ name with different spellings.
I suggest that you find us a scan of some tangible document or letter that Merry/Mary Othigo has signed. One with her names printed below her signature would be even better.
This blog report, and the other preceding, also break the news that I meet with Othigo in 2009 at CPGH.
I’d also suggest the you make a little effort to pay attention to detail from here on out.
Btw, please, no creating forgeries of documents with Maganga’s name or Othigo’s name.
Thanks.
Lucas,
wow breaking news for 2009 !!!!
did the detail seem irrelevant to you at the time ?
are you capable of giving a concise summary of how things went within the next 10 minutes ?
Kim/Mik,
Not irrelevant at all. I’ve been telling people, everyone, EVER SINCE 2009, about the female administrative staff member that I spoke with at CPGH and also that I never spoke with Maganga.
I just recently, days ago, found pictures which are listed as being Othigo. Before this I had no idea what the female CPGH admin staff member’s name was.
This was explained in the blog report. Please read next time before you ask strange questions.
again: we need a complete concise resume of facts. Things are starting to get confusing.
I remember about your encounter with the female staffer. You NOW recognize her as Othigo the Chief Admin at the time. I ask myself why the chief admin of a huge hospital would be serving at the counter instead of governing from her office. BTW I remember, back in the days when you believed Heltan was Helton and Chief Administrator that you did not meet him but that some female staffer went to fetch the document for you. So here is another strange question for you:
was Othigo the female staffer that handed you the document ?
was Dr Kimani there as well ?
questions (take it as vetting before being questione by a judge):
when did you enter CPGH (date and hour local time) ?
how many staffers were present ?
what document did you ask for ?
did you have to fill up any specific form ?
* your name
*name ot the person for whom you were asking a birth certificate ?
did you offer money ?
did you identify yourself ?
if so, how have you identified yourself ?
do youhave witness to the above actions ?
can we have the names of these witnesses ?
has the document been signed and stamped in your presence ?
can you describe the appearence of the offices you visited ?
in what building where they located ?
how did you pass the police station at the main gate ?
did you have to stand in line ?
for how long ?
at what time did you receive the document ?
Kim/Mik,
Watch you step around here. I advocate freedom of speech but I will not allow more of your lies about you having spoke with CPGH staff and your graphic design forgeries and your fake websites. This is your official warning.
Secondly, do not attempt to mislead other with deceptive wording that would imply that I ever said anything about Othigo (now that I know it was her) ‘serving from a counter’ like some receptionist would. Furthermore, I’ve been over all this before. Try listening to some of radio interviews.
Lastly, do you think that this is some sort of ‘tell all‘ blog? You think I’m going to dump my guts here? The only way that the details, in detail, come out is in Court, Congressional Hearings/Investigations, and/or my book in 2012.
And don’t start claiming that you are in contact with CPGH, or other doctors or official unless you have proof. And don’t forge your proof. And if I catch you lying again you are then banned from here, indefinitely.
Lucas,
it is clear to all. And that is why only 5 people believe you:
the names on your document are the result of pedantic internet searches, because this is how you believe you canmake a perfect false document in the www age.
Your basic theory, that since those names appear on the net then your documentis is true, is a logical loop.
Ang’awa existed, references to him can be found on the web, this is not proof to your document’s authenticity. This only proves that you found that name on the net in the first place.
But as you know the net is “imperfect”. People often misspell names, make wrong assumptions, report facts wrongly or incorrectly.
So when you diligently quote a source, the exactness of your quotation is only relative to the source itself. What happens when you quote a mistaken information ?
Simple, your source becomes transparent. This is what happened with the name spelling of Maganga. Off course there are sources spelling his name Helton, otherwise you never have spelled it that way.
How about Obama’s time of birth reported on your hoax ? What was the source for that ? Obama’s short form.
Are there elements on your hoax that CANNOT be traced to the net and searched independently ? No there aren’t. And this is why I call your scam a logical loop.
Find sources for names on the net.
Build the hoax
Provide those same sources as only proof
Sources flawed. New elements necessary.
Hotel receipts, passport stamps, entry visas, photos, witnesses.
You have provided nothing besides the continuous reference to your originary sources.
Why has no one ever tried to get another example of a 1961 Kenyan BC to compare yours with? Wouldn’t that end much of the speculation?
1961 kenyan BC’s are all over the net, even Lucas knows it. They are issued by the Registrar not by hospitals that at most issue birth notifications. They resemble the modern day ones
http://www.evilbastard.org/sastuff/RepublicofKenyaC–101_9889.jpg%201024%D7768%20pixels.jpg
They are similar in form to the red and black inked british ones.
Birth Certificates were made mandatory for Mombasa in 1965
http://www.kenyalaw.org/kenyalaw/klr_app/view_content.php?ContentHistoryID=24006
They existed before, they were not mandatory.
Also Birth Notifications (you can find the form on the Births and Deaths Registration Act -in Kenyalaw.org) existed. And they do not contemplate a footprint.
So if birth notifications existed why bother with the American Style cerimonial hospital certificate ?
Mik / Kim,
You now have 24 hours to cite the ’61 Kenyan BC’s’ that are ‘all over the net’. So far you cited none, 0, ziltch. You’ve provided a link to a 2008 Kenya Republic birth record.
Since you claim that 61’s are all over the net then I would like to see 5 (five) within the next 24 hours. I told you that you would not be allowed to use decptive wording on this blog. You will not cheat, forge and use deception and other ‘cop/police’ tactics on this blog.
I hold you to a higher standard than anyone else here because of you history of lies and forgeries and deceit.
If you do not cite 5 1961 Kenyan bc’s within the next 24 hours I am going to seriously consider banning you from posting comments here.
I was asking Mr. Smith, not you.
Why has no one ever tried to get another example of a 1961 Kenyan BC to compare yours with? Wouldn’t that end much of the speculation?
BlackSunshine84,
That’s a great question. I think that finding another 1961 Kenyan Protectorte birth certificate is a spectacular idea. A hospital certificate of birth would be even better. I have been trying for a couple years now. All I have come up with is one birth certificate from a few years before 1961, and it could be a fake. At any rate, I am going to write a blog report about it (the birth certificate from a few years before 1961) very soon.
BlackSunshine84, I welcome and invite you to post your thougts on my blog. I advocate freedom of speech. You are welcome to say just about anything that you’d like to say. I only hold Mik Taerg aka Great Kim to a higher standard because they have done some horrible things in the past such as, though not limited to, forging documents in attempts to discredit me.
Thank you.
I have no reason to doubt anything you have said here for the simple fact that when I step back and look at the big picture, it doesn’t benefit you to lie about it.
Funny, Mik Taerg requires of you “Hotel receipts, passport stamps, entry visas, photos, witnesses,” but 0bama need only upload a dubious COLB and it is proof enough for him that 0bama is eligible to be POTUS.
@ MikTaerg:
The certificate you posted is the equivalent of the COLB that 0bama posted. It says at the bottom that it is “not proof of Kenyan citizenship.” Maybe Birth certificates were not mandated until 1961 but that is because many Kenyan births at that time occurred in rural villages without attending physicians. Birth certificates weren’t available to them. Hospital births were recorded.
Ah Mik/Great Kim;
Your back at it again, same questions, different site. All previously answered, or it was clearly stated that they would not be answered, except in a court of law. To date, nobody, and many have tried, to discredit the CPGH BC that Lucas went to Kenya, and secured. Not even you. In fact, you run your question and demands ad naseum. This posting by Lucas Smith showed a picture, and stated that he had more recent photo(s) as late as 2010, that is 1 year AFTER he secured the document. Yet, you jump to the conclusion that he would not know her today. I often have felt that you have cut-n-paste statements you can quickly insert into such blogs and posting, to insert a “fly into the ointment”, but there are those of us who have been thru this with you in the past, and your a broken record. I have said it before, and I will say it again, “your not going to get the answers you seek” as they are reserved, for another time. Question what you know, and the facts presented to you today, and you will be well served. Your arguments are old, your comments dated, and your venom redundant. You argue without understanding or even coherently reading that which is put before you. Do your self a favor, and the other readers, and educate yourself just a little before blathering the same diatribe that has been patiently addressed countless other times on other sites. JMO of course.
Etraveler13 wrote:
@ Etraveler13:
Great to see you here on the WOBIK Blog! And thank you very much for participating here and posting your thoughts! Really made my day.
And this is what you get when you go to get the BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the REGISTRAR of Births……(the Hospitals NEVER issued a BC…and Smith knows it!)
CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH
Birth in the ……………………………………………. District in the ……………………………………….………….. Province
No.
/19
Where Born
Name
Date of Birth
Sex
Name and Surname of Father
Name and Maiden
Name of Mother
Signature, description and
Residence of Informant
Signature of Registering Officer
Date of Registration
Baptismal Name if added or altered after Registration of birth
Certified to be a true copy of a return/an entry in the Register of Births in the District above mentioned.
Given under the seal of the Register-General on the ……… day of …….., 19……..