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Patrick J. Buchanan — Official Website<\/strong>, by Patrick J. Buchanan — May 10, 2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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CNN Crossfire <\/em>Transcript<\/em><\/a> \u2013 December 23, 1987<\/em><\/strong>
Note: The following is an uncorrected transcript.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Announcer<\/strong>
Tonight, from Washington, Crossfire, the ego that built Manhattan. On the left Tom Braden, on the right Pat Buchanan. In the Crossfire in New York, Donald Trump.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Good evening and welcome to Crossfire. He is 41 years old, something near a billionaire in the famous builder of New York, Trump Park and Trump Towers. He\u2019s friends say he is vainglorious, hard-working, brilliant and brash.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Hiss enemies describing him as abrasive, arrogant and overrated. The Mayor of New York, Ed Koch your frequent guest. Right here on the Crossfire calls him piggy. He in turn calls the mayor a moron and a bully. He is here to talk about himself, his accomplishments in his new book \u201cThe Art of The Deal\u201d. So Mr. Braden, let\u2019s get on with Donald Trump in the Crossfire.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
All right, Mr. TRUMP at age 41 you\u2019re a billionaire. What are going to do next?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I do not know. I\u2019m just having a great time doing what I\u2019m doing. I feel that I\u2019m producing a lot of jobs for a lot of people we\u2019re doing a nice job in New York City and elsewhere. I\u2019m very happy about it Tom.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Well, I was interested in something you once said and I quote \u201cThere is no one my age who has accomplished more\u201d that made me think of a Beethoven and Mozart, Napoleon or Alexander. Would you rate yourself with those guys?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I don\u2019t know if I\u2019m really mad. I\u2019m talking about in current days. I think we\u2019ve done OK. And we\u2019ve really employed a lot of people a lot of people. Thousands of people in this country and I\u2019m very happy about it. So, overall I think we\u2019ve done pretty well and I\u2019m happy. I don\u2019t want to put myself in comparison to Beethoven, I will tell you that.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Donald Trump your book \u201cThe Art of The Deal.\u201d It\u2019s got as you mentioned, off-camera, some good reviews. New York Times it\u2019s also getting badly trash in a couple of publications. Now want to read your quote from Jonathan Yardley and Washington Post our favored paper down here and see if you will respond to it. The man is talking about you, \u201cThe man\u2019s lack of taste is as vast as his lack of shame.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
He\u2019s buildings each and everyone are monuments both to himself and parvenu ostentation. The pink marble atrium looks like nothing so much as the lavatory in a pricey horror house\u201d. It goes all downhill from there. Are bothered by those kinds of reviews?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
While the guys probably a loser. I\u2019ve never heard of him to be perfectly honest with you. We get tremendous reviews generally for the book, but you are always going to have some personal attacks. That\u2019s not a review of the book that\u2019s really a personal attack. Trump Tower is the most successful building in New York. It\u2019s been an unbelievable success as you folks know.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Right.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
People come from all over the world to see it and it has gotten tremendous architectural reviews. This is a man who obviously \u2014 and again I never heard of him and didn\u2019t read his review. I\u2019m hearing it for the first time, but he\u2019s not attacking a book he\u2019s attacking on a personal basis, and I find that I have that quite a bit.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
I have a lot of good friends a lot of good enemies and the enemies be damned in the friends and with you 100 percent.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Why are you so hostile to Mayor Koch?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I\u2019m hostile to Mayor Koch. I guess you could I\u2019m hostile to the job he\u2019s done but to be perfectly honest, things have not been going to particularly well in New York City. The man is \u2014 I guess trying his best and I hope is trying his best \u2014 I even suggested as a New Year\u2019s resolution that I would be so critical or \u2014
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Well, it\u2019s not New Years yet. So let\u2019s hold on there. And let me get in this because the mayor is credited. I guess a lot of folks know we had the Lindsay years and the Beame years and New York was in bankruptcy. And Mayor Koch of course he had some good times with Mayor Koch is credited with a lot of people would bring it back with governing a city that\u2019s ungovernable with he\u2019s got all kinds of \u2014
Donald Trump<\/strong>
The city is not ungovernable Pat. It\u2019s not ungovernable at all. Any city is governable. When it\u2019s ungovernable you better give up and just sort of say forget it, nothing can happen. New York City is the greatest city in the world. It\u2019s not at all ungovernable and I think it\u2019s pretty sad when somebody has even suggested it might be.
New York City ungovernable Pat greatest city
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Mr. Trump I want to ask you about a billion dollars because it\u2019s hard for all of us to imagine billion dollars. But you can, so let\u2019s take a couple of America\u2019s billionaire really rich man Andrew Carnegie made a steel and he spent his money giving and making public libraries all over the country, all the small towns in America. John D. Rockefeller made a fortune in oil and then he spent it largely on medical research, doctor curing diseases. I wonder what you want to do with your money?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Excuse me this earphone is off.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Why don\u2019t we take a break now? And then while they get Donald Trump and fix the earphone for him, if we can back there in production both, we\u2019ll be right back. [Commercial Break]
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Tom Braden and I we\u2019re talking with Donald Trump in New York the author of \u201cThe Art of The Deal\u201d, which is the best seller. He just lost his earpiece and we\u2019ll be back in a second.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Welcome to Crossfire. While we\u2019re talking with Donald Trump who at 41 has made a billion dollars and is the author of a current best seller \u201cThe Art of The Deal.\u201d Mr. Trump when your earpiece fell off, I was asking you about Andrew Carnegie he made a lot of money fairly on. And made a lot of money and he put it in the public library to all across America.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
John D. Rockefeller made a lot of money drilling for oil and he put into medical research curing diseases. I wanted to know what you intend to do with your billion dollars?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I intend to give a lot of my money away and I already have. I believe strongly in charities and doing things. We held a Vietnam parade in New York City. We fought very hard to make sure was going to be a great parade. And frankly, it cost over $1 million as far as a contribution from me. So I\u2019m very happy about that. I\u2019m happy about that. I\u2019m happy about the money I\u2019ve given to charity and that\u2019s pretty much the way it is.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Well, I take it that you give about 4 million a year to charity. But I\u2019m talking about, we\u2019re talking about billions and more if you\u2019re continue what you\u2019re doing is suppose you\u2019ll make more. Do you think its public spirited for you to live in three mansions? One of them. I think as 180 rooms and I have a 16 columns of marble carved by Italian workmen and not have something going, which sort of compensate?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, the mansion you\u2019re talking about is one of the greatest mansions in the United States. They\u2019re probably would have been doomed if we can save it. And I did save it, it\u2019s a Mar-a-Lago and Palm Beach. And to be perfectly honest, I think we probably created a great thing for the country. It\u2019s a mansion that had to be saved. It\u2019s really a national trust.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Other people are working there a lot of people working there that would not be. I mean you could look at the of the in any particular act, but to be perfectly honest, I think that I\u2019ve done relative to my age is much is anybody toward charities and I continue to do and I will continue to do a lot more. I feel very strongly and very strongly committed to that.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Let me ask you Donald Trump about that. Mar-a-Lago a place in Palm Beach is a magnificent place. I used to drive by it. And as you say you employ a tremendous number of people. People when you\u2019re building something or when you are maintaining something you give to something to charity. And yet you\u2019re criticized by folks for lacking a social conscience. This is stuff bother you?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I think that is always going to happen. It\u2019s like you mentioned before about somebody in the Washington Post giving some kind of a knocker knock on Donald Trump. That\u2019s always going to happen no matter what you do, no matter if you gave \u2014 I\u2019ve took everything right now and gave it immediately. Somebody\u2019s got to find a reason or I had some sinister reason for doing it. So you\u2019re always going to have that and it\u2019s an unfortunate situation Pat.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
But you\u2019ve got, you know, clearly some sense of just maybe not dissatisfaction but lack of fulfillment in being Donald Trump, the builder of Trump Tower when you talk about moving into another realm. Whether some presidential or politics. Is there not enough satisfaction coming on and just putting up buildings? Even the ones that you think of are dramatic?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I get great satisfaction either run this. What I want to continue to do. I want to continue to do exactly what I\u2019m doing other people mentioned possibly presidential bid in all of this other nonsense. I\u2019m not looking to do that.
satisfaction great satisfaction presidential bid nonsense
Donald Trump<\/strong>
I don\u2019t like what I see. I don\u2019t like seeing Japan and Saudi Arabia, Kuwait ripping off this country we have a great country were paying for the defense of Japan by going out to Japan borrowing money from Japan, paying high interest rates and then defending them.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
So, where borrowing money from Japan in order to defend Japan. I think that is ridiculous. It is preposterous. It should be done. We got to be spending money for the farmers and spending money for AIDS.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Spending money with farmers.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Well, let me get back to you Mr. Trump for just a moment. You\u2019re sister said something and I thought was significant about you. She said \u201cSuccess bring success which brings more success. And the more he gets the more he want.\u2019 How would you define success?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, think success can be defined in a number ways you have economic or financial success \u2014
Tom Braden<\/strong>
You\u2019ve got that.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
You have a model success and a social success and I feel I\u2019ve got that too an equal extent. I go very strong into charities and helping people out. Now, people don\u2019t want to write about that and you folks perhaps Tom would want to talk about it because it is not the appropriate thing to have me on a program for.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
But the fact is, I give a lot of money to charity. I believe very strongly in it, and I\u2019d like to know how many other guys my age are giving anywhere near what I\u2019m giving to the various charities.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Let me talk about your view in Japan because you\u2019ve banged up on Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Japan. Exactly, what do you think the president should do about the fact that the Japanese that spent one percent of GNP on defense?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I think it\u2019s going to be impossible for this great country for our great country to compete against Japan and other countries, by the way. We\u2019re becoming a totally second-rate economic power. If we\u2019re spending eight percent of our money on defense and Japan is spending less than one percent of their money.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
For us to be borrowing money to defend the wealthiest nation in the world which is in fact Japan is just totally preposterous. It\u2019s got to stop or we\u2019re going to totally second-rate.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Well, what do you do?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
What do you do? You make Japan pay, you make Japan reimburse us. You go and you negotiate with these people. We\u2019re taken the Persian Gulf. We\u2019re getting oil out of Persian Gulf which goes to Japan. This oil goes to Japan and fuels their factories. They come over beat the hell out of us with General Motors and Ford and Chrysler. They beat the hell out of us, on oil that we got them through the Persian Gulf.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Why aren\u2019t they paying for this oil? Why don\u2019t they paying us a percentage for this oil? It doesn\u2019t make sense and it doesn\u2019t make sense at all, somebody\u2019s got to go to Japan or let them come here dammit and let\u2019s somebody negotiate and get off their share.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
We\u2019re losing $150 billion a year. They\u2019re making a like amount and more. And I think it\u2019s ridiculous that with defending Japan for nothing. And by the way, I love the Japanese people I get along great with the Japanese people they\u2019re huge purchases of our apartments and everything else. The fact is, they\u2019re taking advantage of this country. They know it. We know it and nobody does anything about it.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
I notice that full-page ad that you took out about some newspapers, I guess with the New York Times for one in which you made the same point that you\u2019ve made just now. Does that indicate that you want to go into politics or become a spokesman for your political ideas, your geophysical ideas?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
No, it doesn\u2019t. What it indicates is that I\u2019m tired of seeing the United States getting ripped off and I took ad out and hoping that somebody in political office could do something about it. I don\u2019t know. I haven\u2019t seen that happening yet but dammit it has got a happen and if it\u2019s going to happen quickly, if it doesn\u2019t happen quickly. It is going to be too late economically for this country.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
What going to happens in this country if the Japanese become more competitive which they appear to be?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Competitive in what sense.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Well, I think as you mentioned they run in General Motors and Ford and Chrysler. They\u2019re laughing and on the track.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, Pat when you say competitive. I don\u2019t mean you say they\u2019re competitive. I\u2019d say they\u2019re more than competitive but they have a tremendous advantage. Their people, they are great scientist and great brains there at, coming up with new ideas for VCRs and for television sets and all appliances [Inaudible]. Ours are trying to discover missiles and everything [Inaudible] in Japan.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
All right, let me ask you. Why do go after the Japanese when the Canadians spend about one percent of their GNP for the defense. They got about four destroyers. The U.S. fleet protects them. The American defense establishment protects them our trade with Canada is as large a large in Japan. Why do you single out the Japanese?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
You\u2019re absolutely right and I don\u2019t single out the Japanese. I always purpose it by saying Japan is a good example. The fact is, you have Saudi Arabia, you have Kuwait. Why are we letting Kuwait take oil at? We\u2019re bringing their oil and the tankers in. We\u2019re bringing the oil at. Why aren\u2019t we \u2014
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Because you and I \u2014 Donald look, you and I know Kuwait is a frightened in sense pathetic little \u2014
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Do not put that.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
You know shake them. They\u2019ve got a lot of money and a lot of Cadillacs. Look, if \u2014
Donald Trump<\/strong>
They\u2019re very wealthy people.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
I know they\u2019re wealthy. Look Donald, if Shah in Iran takes a left turn toward Kuwait. Those guys are going to be at the airport and they\u2019re all going to be over here in a minute.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
And that\u2019s all the more reason. They should be reimbursing us for our services. We\u2019re giving them services. We\u2019re literally giving them freedom and why aren\u2019t we getting a percentage of the oil that we bring in and take out? We bring the ships in to get the oil to take it out. I read the other day \u2014
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
They pay for it.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Hey Pat, these four pathetic country that you just talk about just put 10 percent of British petroleum. Now you tell me about it \u2014 [Crosstalk]
Tom Braden<\/strong>
All right Mr. Trump.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
In terms of defense there are. [Crosstalk]
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Why should they defend themselves? We\u2019ll do it nothing.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
I believe Kuwait a long. They\u2019re worried enough about Iran. So we don\u2019t have to take them on. I want to know one other thing about you. Why don\u2019t you build a low-cost housing?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
It\u2019s very difficult problem. It\u2019s the biggest problem. One of the biggest problems this country is going to face. If you look at the homeless situation all over the country, it\u2019s because of the fact that there is no housing. The federal government used to have programs a lot of programs they don\u2019t have any programs right now. And it is a major problem.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Well, we do have program Donald.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, you know, how small the programs are. I mean, if you look at the 1960s and the early 70s, you have massive programs for low moderate and middle income housing. Today you have virtually no programs. You have some minor program to senior citizen housing. You had an approval the other day of potential program. And it\u2019s just not enough.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Why does Donald Trump steps in and say look, I want to show you how to build low-cost housing and a profit. And get the job done.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, first of all you can\u2019t Tom build a low-cost housing and a profit and I wish you could. You can build an efficiently economically as long as you have assistance and help from the government. And I wish we could get that help from the government because it\u2019s desperately needed. When you look at the homeless, when you look at all the problems on the streets, a lot of that is directly related to a lack of housing.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Who are your favorite authors?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I have a number favorite authors. I think Tom Wolfe is excellent.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Did you read Vanity of the the Bonfires?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
I did not.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
What book are you reading now? [Crosstalk]
Donald Trump<\/strong>
I reading my own book again because I think it\u2019s so fantastic Tom.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
What\u2019s the best book you\u2019ve read beside Art of the Deal?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
I really like Tom Wolfe last book. And I think he\u2019s a great author. He\u2019s done a beautiful job \u2014
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Which book?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
His current book.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Bonfire of the Vanities.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Yes. And the man has done a very, very good job. And I really can\u2019t hear with this earphone, by the way.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Well, let me try this one.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
OK.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
You get around a lot. And you meet a lot of people. You were here you met Gorbachev. I like to know this is matter of interest. Of all the people you met in the last couple of years people. People on the television audience know by name only. Whose impress you most?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I met Gorbachev recently in Washington and I was impressed with him very much in terms of his style and handling, and whether it\u2019s true faith or true or whatever. He\u2019s done a hell of a job in terms of public relations and in getting people to believe he\u2019s sincere. And I think he\u2019s certainly put on a good front for the Soviet Union.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
You believe he\u2019s sincere?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Personally I don\u2019t but I think he\u2019s done an awfully good job of convincing a lot of people that he is.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Are you going to build something opposite the Kremlin?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
They\u2019ve asked me about what\u2019s going to be a very difficult situation to do it. It\u2019s very difficult getting involved in partnerships with the Russians because I think a lot of people in the government people can tell you.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
I mean you mentioned that this nonsense I think was the term you use about the presidential thing. But you end up to New Hampshire. I believe in your quoted saying I got the big crowd there were scalping tickets to see Donald Trump and they don\u2019t do that for other politicians, which is true. Do you have an interest in political office at the national level? I think you\u2019ve said you don\u2019t at the local level.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, I tell you Pat, they treated me beautifully in New Hampshire. And I did go up and over the crowd was enormous and I think the response was enormous. And I was very happy with it. The fact is \u2014
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Did you say you speech to the Japanese?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
I gave my speech in the Japanese and other nations as you say and other nations. And again, it is not exclusively the Japanese. This country is being ripped off by its so-called allies and badly and for billions and billions and billions the big quinella money. So, I did go up and we made that we made a lot of progress in terms of New Hampshire, but I have no particular interest in doing anything political.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
When you say that, you know, you\u2019re going to on building buildings at least as far as we know now. That\u2019s what you indeed to do for the next few years. But tell me, when you went up to New Hampshire did look at any Democratic candidate. Do you look at Republican candidates? Do you have a favorite?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
I don\u2019t want to say who my favorite is. I have a couple of people that I know pretty well and I think they are pretty capable, but I think would be to early really right now to talk about favorites. I don\u2019t think that anybody at this moment certainly on the Democratic side in terms of their races says kindle the imagination of the public certainly.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
What you think about and Ivan Boesky?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Not much. I don\u2019t think much of him at all. I don\u2019t know him very well. I really don\u2019t know him at all but I certainly can\u2019t think very much of a man like Ivan Boesky.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
You met Cardinal O\u2019Connor.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Yes.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
And I understand that you later used his name as a reference when you applied for a Nevada gambling license. Does Cardinal O\u2019Connor impress you as a follow that that you can really respect?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
He\u2019s a tremendous man. I know him well. He\u2019s a great credit to the church into the country and everybody associated with him. He\u2019s really a tremendous man, yes.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Tell me Mr. Trump the $80,000 Cadillac, is that a good idea?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
The one that Cadillac is making with the Trump name?
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Yes.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Commonly known as the Trump Golden Series.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Yes, $80,000 Cadillac.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
I don\u2019t know.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
It strikes me as monstrosity.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Well, it\u2019s a magnificent car. I don\u2019t know whether or not it\u2019s good or bad. I mean, it depend Tom on your point of view. If you listen to some people nobody should be able to drive a car at all.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
All right.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
What would you like on your epitaph?
Donald Trump<\/strong>
On mine?
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Yes.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
That I did a good job, worked hard, and I really helped a lot of people. And I think that\u2019s perhaps what it\u2019s going to end up being.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
All right, Donald Trump. Thank you for being our guest.
Donald Trump<\/strong>
Thank you Tom. Thank you Pat.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
Thank you too Donald Trump.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
And now we\u2019re back in just a minute.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
The author of Donald Trump an engaging candid articulate, personable and likable guy. Not like to see that $80,000 Cadillac, just got a small. It\u2019s been badly depreciate.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
Yes, that\u2019s right. That\u2019s right Pat. Well, he is Pat, a very personable and engaging guy. And I think he\u2019s a hustler. He typified our age. The way you make money now is not through building things as Andrew Carnegie or Henry Ford did. You make it by hustling it. If you are personable you can make a lot of it.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
And let me tell you something about Andrew. And they said about John D. Rockefeller. He threw around dimes like sewer caps and Carnegie give some of those guys drove some of the working people. The immigrant people in this country almost to their death with slave labor all those great Robert Barringer your praise Tom. This guy gives money to our Cardinal O\u2019Connor and Sister Teresa. He\u2019s a great Sister Teresa.
Tom Braden<\/strong>
All right, from the left I\u2019m Tom Braden. Good night for Crossfire.
Pat Buchanan<\/strong>
From your right, Pat Buchanan. Join us tomorrow night for addition of Crossfire.
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