Hospital birth certificates are real birth certificates and official records of birth.

Bernard “Bernie” Madoff, who is now serving 150 years in federal prison for fraud related criminal convicitions, was born at the Beth Israel Medical Centre in New York City.Bernie Madoff US Department of Justice picture 2009

In December 2011 his hospital birth certificate (with footprints) was auctioned at a website called GottaHaveRockandRoll.com

The minimum or starting bid was $5,000.00 and on December 10, 2011 the hospital birth certificate sold for $5,500.00.

The certificate of birth contains affixed baby footprints (left and right), embossed (raised) seal, signature of physician in charge,  signature of medical director, full names of mother and father, dates and places of birth of mother and father, weight of child at birth (7 pounds and 8 ounces), sex of child, certificate number (3452) and thumb prints (left and right) of mother.

Here are a few pictures of Bernie Madoff’s birth certificate which sold for about the same price that I paid for Barack Obama’s Coast Province General Hospital certificate of birth:Obama birth certificate offical legal record a Obama birth certificate offical legal record b

Obama birth certificate offical legal record c

The back side of Bernie Madoff’s hospital certificate of birth states, in part, the following:

THIS CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH SHOULD BE CAREFULLY PRESERVED AS A RECORD

To establish positive evidence of identity

To establish age for enrollment in school

To establish age in application for working papers

To establish legal age for rights of franchise

To establish rights of citizenship

To obtain passports for foreign countries

To establish rights under the inheritance law

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21 Responses to Hospital birth certificates are real birth certificates and official records of birth.

  1. It appears that whoever purchased the document in the December 2011 auction went on to put it up for auction agian, in April 2013, but this time there weren’t any takers:

    http://historical.ha.com/itm/miscellaneous/ephemera/bernie-madoff-birth-certificate/a/6093-34398.s

  2. Bruce says:

    THIS CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH SHOULD BE CAREFULLY PRESERVED AS A RECORD – To establish positive evidence of identity

    Two features on Mr. Madoff’s hospital BC that were of immediate interest to me were:

    (1) In addition to the baby’s footprints, the BC also shows the MOTHER’S left and right thumb prints. I don’t ever recall seeing the mother’s prints appearing on a hospital BC prior to viewing this one.

    (2) The Madoff baby footprints appear to be of rather good quality, and reminded me of the ‘FLEXION CREASES READILY VISIBLE’ on the footprint appearing on Obama’s CPGH-BC. (Step right up Mr. Obama and place your inked right foot on the paper so that a professional, infant to adult footprint comparison can be made!)

    See:

    http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/InspectorSmith/showthread.php/5984-The-footprint-on-Obama-s-CPGH-BC-shows-quot-FLEXION-CREASES-READILY-VISIBLE-quot

     photo 60-d983decd7bPristineImageObamaFootprint_zps1f495eea.jpg

  3. AMERICAN ADVOCATE says:

    >>> LUCAS , WE ARE AWARE THAT YOU ARE A COLLECTOR OF BIRTH CERTIFICATES OF FAMOUS ( AND INFAMOUS ) PEOPLE .
    WHAT IS YOUR INTEREST IN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF BERNIE MADOFF ?

  4. AMERICAN ADVOCATE wrote:

    >>> LUCAS , WE ARE AWARE THAT YOU ARE A COLLECTOR OF BIRTH CERTIFICATES OF FAMOUS ( AND INFAMOUS ) PEOPLE .
    WHAT IS YOUR INTEREST IN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF BERNIE MADOFF ?

    Hi Carl, because its a hospital birth certificate (like Obama’s 1961 Kenyan hospital birth certificate) which states, importantly, and contrary to what skeptics have indicated in the past regarding hospital birth certificates, that:

    THIS CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH SHOULD BE CAREFULLY PRESERVED AS A RECORD

    – To establish positive evidence of identity

    – To establish age for enrollment in school

    – To establish age in application for working papers

    – To establish legal age for rights of franchise

    – To establish rights of citizenship

    – To obtain passports for foreign countries

    – To establish rights under the inheritance law

  5. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    AMERICAN ADVOCATE wrote:

    >>> LUCAS , WE ARE AWARE THAT YOU ARE A COLLECTOR OF BIRTH CERTIFICATES OF FAMOUS ( AND INFAMOUS ) PEOPLE .
    WHAT IS YOUR INTEREST IN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF BERNIE MADOFF ?

    He wants to score brownie points, in hopes that Madoff can give him grifting tips, because lets face it, Bruce ain’t gonna love forever, and Smith needs to keep the free money flowing!

  6. Larry Bland says:

    @ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Andy boy, your concern should be with overcoming your RACIST sympathies rather than how Bruce spends his hard earned money.

  7. Bruce says:

    THE BEAUTY OF AMBIGUITY – The U.S. Constitution

    Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of U.S. Constitution as adopted 17 September 1787:

    “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

    I’ve never seen the topic discussed before but I consider it quite remarkable for the time period (1787) that the drafters of the U.S. Constitution DID NOT EXCLUDE ANYONE from becoming POTUS, based on either SEX or RACE.

    That is, as I understand the issue, either a NBC WOMAN or NBC NON-WHITE, for example could THEORETICALLY and LAWFULLY be elected PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES following ratification of the Constitution in 1787.

    The 15th Amendment (Ratified 1870) was added to guarantee the right to VOTE, regardless of race, color or previous condition of servitude.

    The 19th Amendment (Ratified 1920) was added to guarantee the right to VOTE, regardless of sex.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

    Now, we enlightened ones (LOL), in the year 2014 seem OBSESSED with passing inane REGULATIONS to cover virtually EVERYTHING, such as enabling a child to be expelled from school for simply drawing a PICTURE of a gun, or banning hand-held cell phones while driving!

    Whatever happened to the BEAUTY OF AMBIGUITY and the BLESSINGS OF COMMON SENSE?

  8. Bruce says:

    WTF – PONZI SCHEME

    “A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the operator” – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

    Ponzi Scheme – ‘BAD’ – for Bernie Madoff (BC shown in the LDS article above) – Go to JAIL for 150 YEARS you no-good ‘sonofabitch’!

    Ponzi Scheme – GOOD (???) for SOCIAL SECURITY and the U.S. Government (BC shown below). Let’s keep this PONZI SCHEME going as long as possible. We can just keep granting amnesty citizenship to illegal aliens, increasing taxes on citizens and printing money out of thin air to keep the whole thing going till — whenever!

    Image credit: http://abcnews.go.com/images/News/gty_us_constitution_jef_111215_mn.jpg

  9. bob says:

    because its a hospital birth certificate (like Obama’s 1961 Kenyan hospital birth certificate) which states, importantly, and contrary to what skeptics have indicated in the past regarding hospital birth certificates

    Apparently Smith receives legal advice from the back of souvenir certificates (and maybe cereal boxes as well).

    What is printed on the back the Kenya birth certificate that Smith forged? If Smith hasn’t finished forging the back, that’s fine; President Obama still has over two years remaining in the White House.

  10. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    bob wrote:

    President Obama still has over two years remaining in the White House.

    January 20th 2017 will be a momentous occasion. Birthers around the country, all 500 to 1000 of them, will collectively stomp their feet, screaming about how Obama “got away with it!”. It will have been eight years of their collective lives wasted.

  11. Larry Bland says:

    @ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Andy boy, I can count on you to post a ridiculous comment. You never fail to amuse me with your silly, childish, out of touch comments. You stay with your act of trying to present yourself as a anti birther obot when in fact I have proven you to be a RACIST sympathizer and every adult that reads here knows it.

  12. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Time and time again, birthers cry “We proved it!”, and no one listens to them. That has to wound one’s pride.

  13. Larry Bland says:

    @ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Andy boy, how can a RACIST sympathizer like you speak to wounded pride. People of your ilk have no self pride, no feeling of self worth, no humanity, no conscience, which is why you can pretend to be an anti birther obot while harboring RACIST sympathies.

  14. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    And look at that little bitch Larry.
    He’ll probably decorate the nearest wall with his brain matter when this whole birther thing dies down.

  15. Larry Bland says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG wrote:

    And look at that little bitch Larry.
    He’ll probably decorate the nearest wall with his brain matter when this whole birther thing dies down.

    Andy boy, care to explain this comment? Again, when you have nothing, resort to vulgarity. Get comfortable with me calling out your RACIST sympathies, it’s not going away. The birther thing you mention, that’s not going away either.

  16. BobJ says:

    Larry Bland wrote:

    @ Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Andy boy, how can a RACIST sympathizer like you speak to wounded pride. People of your ilk have no self pride, no feeling of self worth, no humanity, no conscience, which is why you can pretend to be an anti birther obot while harboring RACIST sympathies.

    There is no such thing as a RACIST sympathizer.

    Are you stupid, or just willfully ignorant, Larry?

  17. Larry Bland says:

    @ BobJ:
    Yeah there is and Andy boy is one of them. Why do you keep trying to defend this Racist? Perhaps you harbor the same sympathies as Andy boy? What’s your story Bobby boy, you seem to enjoy sticking your two cents into things that do not concern you. You are like an old busy body. Mind your own business or perhaps you think Andy boy is to juvenile to go head to head with me. Try consulting a dictionary before you post nonsense.

  18. BobJ says:

    @ Larry Bland:
    You should take your own advise. It is more applicable to you than to me.

    Also: to- a preposition or infinitive.
    too- also or excessive.

    Since you can’t answer my question, I will go with stupid.

    Thanks Larry. You provide as much entertainment as LLDS.

  19. Larry Bland says:

    @ BobJ:
    Bobby boy, once again the attack on word usage. I told you this before but you don’t seem to have the ability to grasp it, when you have nothing, you attack grammar, spelling, punctuation etc. It is meaningless, it only displays to the adults who read here how trivial and small minded you are. You skirt my questions about your defence of proven RACIST sympathizer Andy boy. What else can we assume from that other than perhaps you harbor the same RACIST sympathies. I ask again Bobby boy, whats your story? Rest easy in the knowledge that I will continue to expose the RACISTS where I find them. I am not going away and neither is the eligibility issue.

  20. BobJ says:

    @ Larry Bland:

    Look for Larry Young

  21. Larry Bland says:

    @ BobJ:
    Bobby boy, your comment pretty much tells your story. Exactly what the adults that read here expected out of you. Very telling indeed.

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