It appears that going back as far as the year 1952 inked footprints may have been used for the purpose of identification and record in Kenya.
A Bill Entitled An Ordinance To Amend The Police Ordinance, 1948, Section 34 (on bottom half of page 909 and top of page 910):
“(1) And magistrate, justice of the peace or police officer of or over the rank of Assistant Inspector or any police officer in charge of a police station may take, or cause to be taken, in his presence, for the purpose of record and identification, the measurements, photographs, footprints and casts thereof, palm prints and fingerprints of any person in lawful custody or who is subject to police supervision[.] The Member may prescribe the form upon which footprints, palm prints or fingerprints shall be taken and such magistrate, justice of the peace, or police officer, as the case may be, shall certify, on such form that such footprints, palm prints or fingerprints have been taken him, or caused to be taken in his presence, in accordance with directions contained on such form, and that the particulars entered on such form are to the best of his knowledge and belief accurate and true[.]
“Provided that such a person in not charged with an offence, or is discharged or acquitted by a court, and has not previously been convicted, all records of such measurements, photographs, footprints and casts thereof, palm prints and fingerprints and any negatives and copies of such footprints, palm prints and fingerprints shall forthwith be destroyed or handed over to such person[.]
“(2) Any person who refuses to permit his measurements, photographs, footprints and casts thereof, palm prints and fingerprints to be taken under the provision of subsection (1) of this section shall be guilty of an offence.”
Conclusion: If the Kenyan police were taking footprints (for identification), palm prints and fingerprints in 1952 then what would be so atypical or peculiar about finding a footprint (for identification) affixed to a Kenyan birth certificate (e.g., Barack Obama’s birth certificate) which was issued nearly ten years later in 1961?
Skeptics have indicated, and presented arguments to the effect, that footprints have never really been used for identification (anywhere in the world, not Kenya in particular).
In this report I have presented evidence that footprints have been used for identification. Moreover, the evidence indicates that such identification was used in Kenya.
If the Kenyan police were taking footprints for identification in 1952 then it would be difficult for anyone to argue that a hospital in Kenya, in year 1961, could not have been taking footprints for identification.
1952 – Kenya Principal (Police) Ordinance, section 34: footprint identification. by Lucas Daniel Smith
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You CLAIMED that you got “Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate” in Kenya. A month has passed since you were challenged to prove that you had gone to Kenya by showing your passport with a Kenya stamp on it, and you have not shown it.
The “born in Kenya” story is the height of the loony side of the birther movement. It is based on alleged birth certificates, like that of Lucas D. Smith, and falsifications––such as the claim that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya—when she actually said right on the same tape that he was born IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.
Lucas D. Smith claimed that he went to Kenya and got Obama’s birth certificate at a hospital in Mombasa. But Lucas D. Smith has constantly refused to show proof that he, Smith, had ever gone to Kenya. All that he would have to do would be to show a Kenya stamp on a page of a passport, but Lucas D. Smith has refused to do that, constantly, and he has also constantly refused to say why he will not show that proof.
Laying aside for a moment the overwhelming proof that Obama was born in Hawaii, the evidence that Obama was NOT born in Kenya is also very strong. There were a grand total of 21 people who came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Of these only seven were US citizens. And the birther myth has always been that Obama’s parents went there and returned by plane, but only one person came to the USA from Kenya in 1961 by plane and that person was, wait for it, NOT a US citizen. And Obama’s father did not go to Kenya in 1961 either (making it unlikely that his mother did, since travel late in pregnancy was rare, and even more rare without the husband going along). WND has proved with a FOI Act request that Obama senior stayed in Hawaii throughout 1961.
And the Kenyan government investigated the “born in Kenya” story, and found that it was not true.
“Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.
“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday.“His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.””
http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged …
Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, and the officials of both parties in Hawaii have confirmed that fact. It is also confirmed by the birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961, which were sent to the papers only by the DOH of Hawaii.
Obama’s birth announcement appeared in a section of the newspapers called Health Bureau Statistics. As the name indicates, and as the papers and the DOH also say, ONLY the DOH of Hawaii could send birth notices to the Health Bureau Statistics section of the paper. And the DOH only sent out those notices for children that it had issued birth certificates for, and in 1961 the DOH was not allowed to register the births of children who were not born in Hawaii.
Oh, and there is this:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/04/kapiol …
Is that all? NO there is more.
Birthers allege that the Kenyan government has hidden all documents that prove that Obama’s mother went to Kenya. Well, that is possible, but not likely—such things tend to leak. But what about the US government? Did it hide its records too?
That is because, obviously, if a child were born in Kenya she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. We simply do not allow a child to be carried into the USA without some form of official document. (Except some are smuggled across the Mexican and Canadian borders, but Kenya does not have a land border with the USA.) And a US travel document, such as having Obama added to his mother’s US passport would have required an application for that document in the US consulate in Nairobi Kenya.
That application would have been filed in multiple files, and there would have been communication about it with Washington, so it would be difficult to be lost or scrapped. And the Bush Administration was in charge of the US State Department for eight years until early 2009, so they could have found it, and if they did they would surely have shown it, and they didn’t.
So, for the “born in Kenya” story to be true, both Kenya and the Bush Administration must be part of a plot. Hawaii too, of course, and that would include the former Republican governor of Hawaii, now running for the US Senate. And the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers that were placed by the DOH in the Hawaii newspapers (and only the DOH could put notices into the Health Bureau Statistics section of the papers) in 1961 would have to be fraudulent too.
And, Kenya is about ten thousand miles from Hawaii, and the idea that Obama’s parents had that kind of money (Obama’s American grandfather was a furniture salesman and his grandmother was just a low-level employee in a bank at the time) or would spend it on a trip while Obama’s mother was late in pregnancy (which was very rare in those days) and take the risk of stillbirth and Yellow Fever (which was endemic in Kenya, and a Yellow Fever shot is bad during pregnancy) is nutty in the extreme.
The bottom line: There is no proof that Obama’s mother went to Kenya and it is highly unlikely that she did. The Kenyan government and Obama’s relatives both say that he was not born there. If he were born in Kenya there would have to be US government documents saying that his family applied for a passport or a visa, and there isn’t any. There is no INS check in for Obama or his mother (which would normally have taken place in New York, since there were no direct flights, and those files are not missing), and the birth certificate and the confirmation of the officials of both parties and the Index Data and the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers all show that he was born in Hawaii.
Lucas Daniel Smith wrote:
If the Kenyan police were taking footprints, palm prints and fingerprints in 1952 then what would be so atypical or peculiar about finding a footprint affixed to a Kenyan birth certificate (e.g., Barack Obama’s birth certificate) which was issued nearly ten years later in 1961?
because they weren’t dragging babies out of hospitals into police stations to have their footprints taken.
btw: kudos for this amazing link to the keywords “+footprint+kenya+hospitals, site:.ke”
I suggets you try the following: “birther+idiot+cedar rapids”
@ greatkim:
What’s up sore loser? You still recovering from the near fatal blow that you took to the cranium? –
Mary Othigo, Marry Othigo & Merry Othigo listed in THE MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS AND DENTISTS ACT (Cap. 253).
http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/lucas-daniel-smith/mary-othigo-marry-othigo-merry-othigo-listed-in-the-medical-practitioners-and-dentists-act-cap-253/
It appears that your way of dealing with the pain is not not talk about it, pretend it never happened? You show up here to commenting about a colonial bill regarding police procedure in 1952 but you don’t say a word when you precious MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS AND DENTISTS ACT (Cap. 253) is exposed?
Then you call me an idiot?
Such a sore sport.
With your mind tied up in silly analogies and transitivity you will never convince anyone beyond the circle of your like minded haters. Is it so hard for you to understand that:
a) a police rule allowing footprints
does NOT lead a sane mind to conclude that your BC is authentic BECAUSE it bears a footprint, and that
b) however you spell her name Othigo was the hospital’s CA on the date stamped on your BC bearing another CA’s name, and that
c) what counts is not Maganga’s spelling in itself, what counts is it’s contextualization, that is, the same spelling on stamp and in signature ?
I like your findings Lucas, and this Passport is truly interesting. Nevertheless your behavior is foolish, obsessive. You should provide simple, reliable, arguments to your cause. Instead you insist on trivial tangent investigation as if investigation could produce something utterly impossible. Like making a lie come true. There is no connection between one thought of yours (police taken footprints) and the next (kenyan bc’s bear footprints). These logical “bypasses” are a clear symptom of schizophrenia.
greatkim wrote:
Where’s your critical and analytical thinking gone to these days?
There absolutely is a connection.
Skeptics have indicated, and presented arguments to the effect, that footprints have never really been used for identification (anywhere in the world, not Kenya in particular).
In this report I have presented evidence that footprints have been used for identification. Moreover, the evidence indicates that such identification was used in Kenya.
If the Kenyan police were taking footprints for identification in 1952 then it would be difficult for anyone to argue that a hospital in Kenya, in year 1961, could not have been taking footprints for identification.
Whats up with you these days, Kim? You not eating well or something? And don’t start throwing chess pieces at me.
Lucas Daniel Smith wrote:
Skeptics have indicated, and presented arguments to the effect, that footprints have never really been used for identification (anywhere in the world, not Kenya in particular).
these “skeptics” are wild speculators. Don’t count me with them. Colonial Kenya decided to have it’s police take footprints and casts (?!) Your conclusion is that after this discovery your document’s authenticity should be viewed more positively given the general context of a “footprint friendly” protectorate.
was there a “shoulder-width” craze as well ? I dunno, something like national shoulder-width contests ?