Part 5: Confirmed, the Dominican Republic does extradite (not to be confused with deportation) to countries whom they do not have extradition treaties with.

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I’ve been preparing for my upcoming extradition to Kenya hearing and I’ve been reading, researching and also interviewing witnesses.

One interesting confirmation and ascertainment that I have made is that the Dominican Republic does extradite (not to be confused with deportation) to countries whom they do not have extradition treaties with.

Furthermore, many of these extraditions are the direct result of communications and requests between police/intelligence agencies in the country where the fugitive is wanted and police/intelligence agencies in the Dominican Republic.

Btw, my attorney Loren Christopher Collins of W Bryant Green III PC seems to have disappeared on me and skipped out on his offer of free legal services.

I telephoned W Bryant Green III PC to explain to them that Loren promised to provide me with free legal aide and advocacy and that also he used high pressure tactics in his attempts to debrief me while promising me free legal services, aide and advocacy, and that he has now skipped out on his offer.

I am preparing a memorandum (in English and Spanish, together) which I will be filing with the Honorable Court and also posting online at my Patriot1980 scribd.com account.

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23 Responses to Part 5: Confirmed, the Dominican Republic does extradite (not to be confused with deportation) to countries whom they do not have extradition treaties with.

  1. bob says:

    One interesting confirmation and ascertainment that I have made is that the Dominican Republic does extradite (not to be confused with deportation) to countries whom they do not have extradition treaties with.

    Again: empty words; no evidence. *yawn*

  2. Lucas is a con ( and not even an artist at it ) says:

    Why don’t you address the FACT that Kenya is not extraditing you nor have they ever heard of you? It was easy enough to contact authorities in Kenya and find out if you were wanted and they responded that they do not know who you are.

    And if Loren “skipped out on you” it is because you failed to provide him with the information he needed to get started on helping you if indeed you were being extradited. But since you’re not, it really doesn’t matter now, does it?

  3. Lucas is a con ( and not even an artist at it ) says:

    You’re interviewing witnesses??? Who in the hell can be a witness in the Dominican Republic if you committed a crime in another country?

  4. Arthur B. says:

    Lucas is a con ( and not even an artist at it ) wrote:

    You’re interviewing witnesses??? Who in the hell can be a witness in the Dominican Republic if you committed a crime in another country?

    I think you’ve misunderstood poor Lucas.

    He’s interviewing witnesses who are going to testify that the security guards don’t speak English.

  5. BobJ says:

    Btw, my attorney Loren Christopher Collins of W Bryant Green III PC seems to have disappeared on me and skipped out on his offer of free legal services.

    You really are bad at this LLDS. You failed to provide the attorney with the proper documentation. If you really were being extradited, why hide the documents from a person offering free legal representation?

    Also, if you Spanish is good enough to draft a response to the court, why is the English ability of the US Embassy guards a problem?

  6. Lucas is a con ( and not even an artist at it ) says:

    Furthermore, many of these extraditions are the direct result of communications and requests between police/intelligence agencies in the country where the fugitive is wanted and police/intelligence agencies in the Dominican Republic.

    Oh, this is good! My guess is what Lucas is trying to convey here is the reason his name does not show up as wanted by Interpol.

    The only problem with this is that Lucas went to a hearing where they were questioning an officer from Interpol (well… not really because we all know that isn’t what really was happening).

    So, Lucas. How can you explain away that fact that when Kenyan authorities were contacted that they had never heard of you and they have no record of any extradition of anyone at this time from any country. And the suggestion was to check the Interpol database for a list of currently wanted fugitives.

    Lucas can’t and won’t address this because he is lying.

  7. Lucas is a con ( and not even an artist at it ) says:

    I’ve hired attorneys in the past to help with various legal matters and they generally want to know a bit about what they will be doing even before signing any agreement (contract). That means providing them with all necessary documents.

    And if Lucas was indeed being extradited, he could have provided those documents to Loren Collins. And Loren would not have been able to discuss what he had received from you. The attorney/client privilege starts once the attorney has agreed to represent the client – not after an agreement is signed.

    Lucas didn’t want Loren’s help because he does not need the help for an extradition.

  8. Great Kim says:

    Lucas Daniel Smith wrote:

    Confirmed, the Dominican Republic does extradite (not to be confused with deportation) to countries whom they do not have extradition treaties with.

    I have just read about a Kenyan pastor living in the UK accused of child theft. The initial extradition request was submitted by Kenyan Police 4 years ago. The British court will take a final decision soon. Thought you might want to look it up.

    An extradition treaty is not necessary to have an extradition. In absence of guidelines cases will be treated individually.

    finally you have understood the difference between extradition and deportation !
    you will now observe that the total yearly cases rarely exceeds 10

  9. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    All hat and no cattle, just like your supports RamboIke and Bruce.
    Btw, Loren probably skipped out on you, because you failed to deliver the information he required to take your case, and realized that you were just trying to con him.

  10. Larry Bland says:

    @ Andrew Vrba, PmG:

    Are you a kid? Your remarks are childlike.

  11. Loren says:

    “he has now skipped out on his offer.”

    No, I was quite clear in my last comment (http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/uncategorized/extradition-to-kenya-hearing-april-212014-next-hearing-in-extradition-to-kenay-case-scheduled-for-june-26-2014/#comment-9846). I need certain documentation, and there’s nothing to be done until I get it. And my options for obtaining it are twofold:

    1) You provide it to me yourself, so I can look at it *immediately*; or
    2) I have to internationally contact the Dominican court myself, through a translator, and wait for them to respond and send me the documentation I’ve requested.

    You’ve forced me to go with #2, and so that’s what I’ve been trying to do. If you’d chosen #1, then I could’ve been reviewing documents ten days ago, but instead I’m still completely empty-handed. If you’re unhappy with the time it’s taking for them to provide me the documentation I need, you can always fast-forward this process by cooperating rather than complaining.

    I’ll say this, though. Since my last comment, the U.S. embassy is apparently saying that Dominican authorities told them that you are not currently facing extradition. That would seem to be consistent with your video, which I couldn’t help but notice cut off without anyone having mentioned extradition. Or Kenya. Or you. Indeed, it had every appearance of being a random court hearing. If I spend all this effort trying to get an independent response from the Dominican court directly, and they say the same thing, I assume you’ll have a very good explanation for why you forced me to find that out myself. Not being extradited is *good* news, after all.

    Nonetheless, for now I will continue trying to get a response out of the Dominican court. When I get the answers I need, then I’ll see what I can do.

  12. @ Loren:

    If you are my attorney, I tell you you what to do. You never dictate what I do.

    Furthermore, I’ve talked with other attorneys in the United States and described you (by name) and your high pressure tactics and they’ve indicated that you are acting unethically. They advised me that they would NOT need to see detailed documentation, or even a case number, before entering into an attorney client contract with me, especially when they, as a licensed attorney in some of the US States, would NOT be able to physically represent me the Dominican courtroom. (Just as you would not be physically present and would not be admitted to the Court in the Dominican Republic.) They would, essentially, only be providing me with legal advice and my rights as an American. (Which YOU could have been doing for more than 10 days now.) They wouldn’t be filing anything with the Court in the Dominican Republic nor would they attempt to learn the rules and structures of a foreign judicial system.

    You, attorney Loren Collins, are acting unethical and appear to be nothing more than a con artist.

  13. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    No, Smith. He’s not a con artist. He is doing what a good attorney is supposed to do!

  14. Arthur B. says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG wrote:

    No, Smith. He’s not a con artist. He is doing what a good attorney is supposed to do!

    Come on, do you really claim to know better than him, Lucas Daniel Smith, what a con artist is?

  15. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Just another sign that points to Smith being a liar.

  16. Bruce says:

    Alleged mafia figure sought by Italy arrested at resort in Dominican Republic

    Fox News
    Associated Press
    4/28/2014

    Excerpts:

    SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic – Police in the Dominican Republic have arrested an alleged high-ranking member of an Italian mafia group who was apparently hiding out in a resort town to avoid a prison sentence for drug offenses.

    Nicola Pignatelli was arrested in the southern town of Juan Dolio on an international arrest warrant issued by Interpol. He fled Italy in 2011 before he was to start serving a sentence of more than 13 years in prison.
    …………………………………

    He is expected to be extradited Monday.

    View the complete article at:

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/04/28/alleged-mafia-figure-sought-by-italy-arrested-at-resort-in-dominican-republic/
    ————————————————–
    It is my understanding that the Dominican Republic does not currently have an extradition treaty with Italy. However, someone please correct me if I am wrong on this.

  17. Lucas is a conartist says:

    Lucas Daniel Smith wrote:

    If you are my attorney, I tell you you what to do. You never dictate what I do.

    Umm that’s not how this works. You have an obligation to provide him with the proper paperwork so that he could prepare a proper defense. You have failed to do so.

    Lucas Daniel Smith wrote:

    urthermore, I’ve talked with other attorneys in the United States and described you (by name) and your high pressure tactics and they’ve indicated that you are acting unethically. They advised me that they would NOT need to see detailed documentation, or even a case number, before entering into an attorney client contract with me, especially when they, as a licensed attorney in some of the US States, would NOT be able to physically represent me the Dominican courtroom. (Just as you would not be physically present and would not be admitted to the Court in the Dominican Republic.) They would, essentially, only be providing me with legal advice and my rights as an American. (Which YOU could have been doing for more than 10 days now.) They wouldn’t be filing anything with the Court in the Dominican Republic nor would they attempt to learn the rules and structures of a foreign judicial system.

    Lucas is lying again. I love how all your supposed claims have to be totally anonymous. No lawyer is going to get involved with a client without having the proper information from them to mount a defense.

    Time to admit you lied and aren’t being extradited.

  18. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Q: How do you tell that Lucas Daniel Smith is lying?
    A: He makes a blog post.

  19. Bruce wrote:

    It is my understanding that the Dominican Republic does not currently have an extradition treaty with Italy. However, someone please correct me if I am wrong on this.

    Bruce, you are correct. They don’t have a treaty with Italy. The don’t with France either and they’ve extradited to France. They even ruled on a case where the extradition was to Poland.

    The list goes on and on.

  20. Lucas is a conartist says:

    Lucas Daniel Smith wrote:

    Bruce wrote:

    It is my understanding that the Dominican Republic does not currently have an extradition treaty with Italy. However, someone please correct me if I am wrong on this.

    Bruce, you are correct. They don’t have a treaty with Italy. The don’t with France either and they’ve extradited to France. They even ruled on a case where the extradition was to Poland.

    The list goes on and on.

    Which has absolutely nothing to do with you proving your claim that you were being extradited.

  21. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Smith’s brand of crazy is starting to get stale. I wonder what Cody Robert Judy is up to.

  22. IForged NancyOwensBirthCertificate says:

    Smith’s brand of crazy is starting to get stale. I wonder what Cody Robert Judy is up to.

    There is plenty of Birther crazy to go around, a veritable smorgasbord of crazy. Let me name a few:

    Maratha Trowbridge – Now who is Obama’s father this week?
    Butterdizillion – No kidding that is a diver in the water!
    Mike Volin – Show me yours and I will give you a sheriff’s kit
    Tatiz – A cornucopia of crazy nonpareil
    Any commenter at Birther Report
    Jedi “Magic Sperm” Pauly
    Hermitian – Every document is a forgery. Just ask him
    Adrien Nash – Obama was born in Vancouver. Don’t ask for proof though.
    Sharon Rondeau – She knows more about Tennessee law than any 10 lawyers in Tennessee. Just ask her (but don’t stop on the way to get her food stamps).
    Walter Fitzpatrick – How to royally screw up a promising Naval career and your entire life in 10 easy lesson.
    Carl “Gods Gift to Birthers” Gallups – Has the universe shattered this week?

    I could go on and on but you get the idea.

  23. JoZeppy says:

    And again, still nothing showing that you, Lucas D Smith is facing extradition hearings.

    Oh, and no, nothing Loren has done is unethical (although I do find you dragging this conversation onto the internet a rather unsavory turn). No lawyer will ever accept a case without having the proper facts before him. It does not matter if he is only advising you on your rights as a US citizen or if he standing in court for you. He needs the facts. Without the facts, he can’t even decide what the scope of your representation will be. So please, save you “I spoke with other attorneys” b.s. There are attorneys who actually follow the birther movement, and know better.

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